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Now that I have a small first collection of pigments to play with before new plants can be tested next summer (I do have some old dried things I can try too), there are multiple ways to use them. They need some kind of binder, although I suppose you could just soak them in water. Alcohol? But even watercolours have binders added to add intensity to the colour as well as make it stick to your paper.
You can use oil, egg, honey*, gum, shellac, wax, milk, spit! or buy readymade binders for a variety of mediums. Even an acrylic binder which I may just have to test, although I’m leaning towards wax and shellac since I plan on working with that anyway.
As I progressed with the pigment extraction I found out that even if you think you’ve ground everything as fine as you can in the mortar, keep going for a while yet and it will improve. So my first batches needed a rerun to get out the last few lumps. To grind even finer I think you need a machine, so let’s keep it rustic like everything else, shall we? Also interestingly, the finer you grind, the bigger the jar you need, as the powder gets fluffier.
Some colour samples below. Autumnal tones which could definitely need some companion colours, but there are a few I quite like! The first five from left are all variations on Staghorn Sumac and the cocoa in the middle is from my hedge clippings, won’t be able to harvest more of those until next July.
I’ll be looking at reds and oranges next. Fresh blues, greens and purples are not really possible with plants, although since it’s elderberry season I may just cook up a batch to compare with wool dye samples for the sake of proving a point. But I’m hoping for some bright and sunny yellows next summer.
Autumn light (and temps) being the norm now for the next 6 months, I don’t know how much point there is in making a sun proofing test since most days will probably be grey and dark, so I’m wondering how else to figure out colour fastness. Any ideas?
* Honey that has not been heated before bottling has antifungal and antibacterial qualities.
In case I end up with leftovers – would anybody be interested in buying very very limited edition collections of homemade “primitive” paints in whichever form I settle on? (Mostly because it would be a fun thing to do, especially if I get feedback) You’re most welcome to take the polls even if you think it’ll just be window shopping.
I’m leaning towards watercolour pans and wax crayons/oil bars myself as the easiest/cheapest thing to ship.
Anyone who votes and elaborates in the comments will be in the lottery for a selection of watercolour pans all made from plants in my garden, free shipping anywhere.
Did you know that many famous painters of old didn’t care AT ALL if their paints were archival? JMW Turner always used the brightest, newest paints as they were invented, even if they faded within a year. The paintings of van Gogh also looked quite different when they were fresh compared to the colours we are seeing on his paintings today.
Uglemor (Charlotte) said:
Har du nogen idé om, hvorfor man ikke kan lave blå farve af kornblomster? Alle andre blå kronblade, jeg har forsøgt at samle, falmer når de tørrer, men kronblomstens blade forbliver kornblomstblå. Jeg kunne i hvert fald godt overtales til at forsøge at male blåt med fint pulveriserede kronblade, men det er nok kun en drøm. De eneste, jeg har forsøgt mig med, er blækhatteblæk og valnøddeskalsekstrakt, de ligner begge nu en japansk blæk-blok til at skrive med – skal prøves snarest.
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Pia said:
At bare pulverisere plantemateriale er ikke det samme som at udtrække pigmentet og binde det til alun, og vil nok i langt de fleste tilfælde ikke virke som maling. Det er nok også derfor, det ikke virker med kornblomsterne, som alle andre blå blomsterfarver er den farve vi ser ikke dannet via egentligt pigment men en anden proces som jeg ikke har en fis forstand på. Teoretisk kemi keder mig overordentlig meget!!
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Uglemor (Charlotte) said:
Jeg ved godt, at det ikke er det samme, plantefarvning og malerfarveproduktion ligener trods alt hinanden 😉 Og du har helt ret i dine overvejelser om at det ikke er det samme, den holder ikke ved opvarmning … jeg tænkte bare … når nu man kan lave farver af pulveriserede sten, jord, ler … hvorfor så ikke pulveriserede urter?
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Pia said:
Jeg må være dig svar skyldig. De fleste planter er jo så også umådeligt kedelige i vissen tilstand, så man kunne blot lave endeløse rækker af khaki. Jeg tror heller ikke din kornblomst holder til en sæson i vindueskarmen!
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sarah said:
In my brief stint at an art school we were encouraged to use any and everything and never worry about longevity or lightfastness. I blame the Americans for the current obsession with lightfastness (it’s their ‘cult of materials’ imo)which has put pressure on everyone to worry about this kind of thing when selling work – and even for sketchbooks 🙄
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Pia said:
Worrying whether my paintings will last a century when I’ve actually only sold a few is a bit like “needing” to find an agent/publisher before you begin writing a book, isn’t it?
Pink sock yarn that fades to beige first time it’s washed is obviously not very cool, but other than that, everything fades a bit with use and may otherwise wear out first.
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sarah said:
It is rather.
Yes, some lasting power is good, but really when I see people who can barely draw or paint worrying about lightfastness in their personal sketchbooks…😂
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Uglemor (Charlotte) said:
I agree – ligthfastness is the new black. I also knit socks for my boys from not very fast, but pretty colours 😉
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sarah said:
‘Lightfastness is the new black’ 😁 I love that!
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Pia said:
Btw I can’t see who replied about the oil bars, but in case it was you, the wax crayons I had in mind will in fact be oil bars – natural beeswax to keep the shape + oil + pigment. Definitely going to try to find a good formula for my personal use! So not the hard, glossy type of wax crayon.
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sarah said:
‘‘Twas me – they sound just the thing. I have researched a few recipes myself in the past but then went off the idea as it felt too energy consuming. Good luck with this.
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Pia said:
If I get the hang of it I’ll send you a sample!
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sarah said:
Thank you – that would be wonderful!
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Tracy Waite said:
Oooh… oil sticks… yessss!
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Pia said:
I knew that would excite you! 😉 It’s probably my own preference too. Just need to find a good mold for them. I have one idea, but it requires that I find an invasive plant…
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Skyscapes for the Soul said:
I was on the road so I missed this post last week. Not that I am not willing to comment; I have never made my own paints – too much like being a chef or chemist and I am lousy at both. I would love to try your paints. But I did recently learn that not all pigments are soluble in all solvents. I can’t say I can help you on which and which, but if some pigment you are working with won’t dissolve in your solvent, it might not be your lack of skill, it might just be impossible. I don’t know how to figure out the fatness. Oh, just scrolled up to something and there’s the survey, it didn’t pop in before.
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Pia said:
Thanks for replying. I think with powdered natural pigments they don’t actually dissolve in anything, they are merely suspended in oil for example, or rather coated by oil, and the substance helps refract the light. But you are right, just mixing them in water does not make them suitable to paint with.
What I’m making will probably be quite grainy in for instance gum arabic for water colours, compared to industrially ground pigments. But just making something that is like what’s already there isn’t really worth the trouble anyway, is it? Rather I’m exploring the more grunge side of things, rough and imperfect as bark, naturally occurring components, “how could I keep painting if there was an apocalypse” (because I’d totally get the time and opportunity, you think?). 😉
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Skyscapes for the Soul said:
I know that if there was an apocalypse, you’d likely be the best dressed European in about a year.
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Pia said:
😄
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Marla Delaney said:
I am interested in starting to use the powder mica in neon .I am new to this craft and am getting stuff a at time I have cancer so funds are limited on my end. I would like to get the jars of neon colors to do a tumbler s like the neon lights I seen someone do. Do you have a catalog you could send out so I could see what you have. I can’t afford to waste money.Not even sure if I would liket he powders. But I want to learn.so maybe if you have samples.i am basically house bound. And the tumblers are kinda of expensive. Thank you
taking the time to read my email.
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Pia said:
Hey Marla – sorry to hear about your troubles.
I don’t actually have pigments to sell at this time and I was never a fully stocked shop, so I’m afraid I can’t help you. My own favourite pigment shop is “Kremerpigmente”, I believe they also have a shop in the US. (I use the German branch).
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